FrAG Summer League 2011: 1850 Update

Everyone for the league has submitted their 1850 point lists. I will go through them here and make some comments in Purple. Hopefully this will not hurt anyone's eyes.


First up is my 1850 list (I am still stuck playing Chaos Space Marines)

Chaos Lord w/Terminator Armor, Combi-Melta, Daemon Weapon
10 Chaos Space Marines w/2 Meltaguns
Rhino w/Pintle Combi-Bolter
10 Chaos Space Marines w/2 Plasma Guns
Rhino w/Pintle Combi-Bolter
10 Chaos Space Marines w/Flamer, Meltagun, Aspiring Champion, Powerfist
Rhino w/Pintle Combi-Bolter
10 Chaos Space Marines w/Flamer, Meltagun, Aspiring Champion, Powerfist
Rhino w/Pintle Combi-Bolter
10 Chaos Space Marines w/Plasma Gun, Autocannon, Aspiring Champion
5 Chaos Terminators w/2 Combi-Meltas, Twin Lightning Claws, Heavy Flamer, Powerfist, Chainfist
5 Chaos Terminators w/2 Combi-Meltas, Twin Lightning Claws, Heavy Flamer, Powerfist, Chainfist
5 Chaos Terminators w/2 Combi-Plasmas, 2 Combi-Flamers, Heavy Flamer, Chainfist

I kept with the terminator theme (I think Chaos Terminators are slightly under-rated).
I decided to include tons more Infantry to help with scoring missions and to provide my army with a bit more staying power by eliminating pricey one-hit targets.

Round 1: PJ Brady in a Seize Ground, Dawn of War
(Space Wolves)

Ragnar Blackmane

Grey Hunters (9)
Melta

Rhino

Grey Hunters (9)
Melta
Rhino

Grey Hunters (9)
Melta
Rhino

Grey Hunters (9)
Plasma
Rhino

Wolf Guard (5)
4 Power Fists, 3 Combi Melta
1 Combi Plasma

Wolf Guard (6)
2 Terminators w/ Wolf Claw and Storm Shield
1 Terminator w/ Thunder Hammer Storm shield
1 Terminator w/ Combi Melta, Melta Bombs and Wolf Claw
1 Wolf Guard w/ Combi Melta and Powerfist
1 Arjac Rockfist
Land Raider Redeemer
Multi-Melta, Extra Armor, Hunter Killer Missile, Storm Bolter

Looks kind of like a n00b-hammer list. The strange thing is that the Land Raider may cause me trouble. In reality, there are only 4 Rhinos and a Land Raider with expensive ass stuff inside. I do not really fear this, but 40 Grey Hunters can be a pain for Chaos to get rid of.

Round 2: Chris Sult in a Pitched Battle Annihilation
(Dark Angels)
Belial Master of the Deathwing w/TH&SS
Dreadnought w/Multi-Melta & DCW w/Heavy Flamer [Drop Pod]
Dreadnought w/Multi-Melta & DCW w/Heavy Flamer [Drop Pod]
Deathwing Squad (5) w/TH&SS, Cyclone Missile Launcher, Apothecary
Deathwing Squad (5) w/TH&SS, Cyclone Missile Launcher
Deathwing Squad (5) w/TH&SS, Cyclone Missile Launcher
Deathwing Squad (5) w/TH&SS, Cyclone Missile Launcher
Deathwing Squad (5) w/SB&PF, Cyclone Missile Launcher, Sgt w/Power Sword, 1w/Chain Fist
Ravenwing Support Squadron Land Speeder w/Multi-melta & Typhoon Missile Launcher
Ravenwing Support Squadron Land Speeder w/Multi-melta & Typhoon Missile Launcher

A pretty standard Deathwing list. With more CSM's in my list I think I will have an easier time, but my victory ultimately depends on Chris failing 2+/3++ saves. Looking at the other players lists, I still expect Chris to go 5-0 again.

Round 3: Pete Daze in a Pitched Battle Annihilation
(Imperial Guard)

Command Squad (135) 1 melta, 3 plasmas, Officer of the Fleet
[Chimera (55) Multi-Laser and Heavy Flamer]

Psyker Battle Squad (100) 4 additional psykers
[Chimera (55) Multi-Laser and Heavy Flamer]

Psyker Battle Squad (100) 4 additional psykers
[Chimera (55) Multi-Laser and Heavy Flamer]

Guardsman Marbo (65)

Veterans (100) 3 meltas
[Chimera (55) Multi-Laser and Heavy Flamer]

Veterans (100) 3 meltas
[Chimera (55) Multi-Laser and Heavy Flamer]

Veterans (100) 3 meltas
[Chimera (55) Multi-Laser and Heavy Flamer]

Veterans (100) 3 meltas

Vendetta (130)

Vendetta (130)

Leman Russ Battle Tank (150)

Leman Russ Battle Tank (150)

Manticore (160)

Pretty standard Guard list. Pete added the psyker battle squads and Marbo to his previous list. The Psyker Battle Squads are awesome against Chaos because we have no Psychic Defense and we do not have ATSKNF (And they shall know no fear). Unless I can kill them quickly, I will have any units fleeing the table...

Round 4: v Leigh Brady in a Spearhead Cleanse (The old 3rd edition mission)
(Space Wolves)

Wolf Lord – 210
Thunder-wolf Mount, Wolf Claw, Runic Armor, Stormshield

Thunder-wolf Cavalry - 265
1 w/ wolf claw, stormshield
1 w/ close combat weapon, stormshield
1 w/ meltabombs, close combat weapon, stormshield
Thunder-wolf Cavalry – 185
1 w/ wolf claw, stormshield
1 w/ meltabombs, close combat weapon, stormshield

Grey Hunters – 155 (10)
2 melta guns
Rhino - 35
Grey Hunters – 155 (10)
2 melta guns
Rhino – 35
Grey Hunters – 155 (10)
2 melta guns
Rhino – 35
Grey Hunters – 155 (10)
2 melta guns
Rhino – 35

Long Fangs – 140 (6)
5 missile launchers, pack leader
Razorback – 75
Twin-linked lascannon
Long Fangs – 140 (6)
5 missile launchers, pack leader
Razorback – 75
Twin-linked lascannon

I would consider this list sub-par. There are a few minor things that are not great in my opinion. The Thunderwolf Cavalry have too many Stormshields and ZERO Powerfists/Thunderhammers. They will get spanked by dreadnoughts. The Wolf Lord should really have Saga of the Bear to prevent Instant Death. The Razorbacks seem a little out of place without scoring units inside of them. This list will likely still crush me though. I cannot deal with the Thunderwolf Cavalry.

Round 5: v Aaron Blough in a Capture and Control Spearhead.
(Blood Angels)

Librarian-100
Shield of Sanguinius, Fear of the Darkness

Brother Corbulo-105
2 Sanguinary Priests-150
Lightning Claws, Combi-Meltas

10 Tactical Marines-210
Lascannon, Meltagun
Sergeant- Combi-Melta, Power Weapon, Meltabombs

10 Tactical Marines-210
Lascannon, Meltagun
Sergeant- Combi-Melta, Power Weapon, Meltabombs

10 Tactical Marines-210
Plasma Gun, Plasma Cannon
Sergeant- Combi-Plasma, Power Weapon, Meltabombs

10 Tactical Marines-210
Plasma Gun, Plasma Cannon
Sergeant- Combi-Plasma, Power Weapon, Meltabombs

10 Devastators-210
4 Missile Launchers

10 Devastators-210
4 Missile Launchers

10 Devastators-210
4 Missile Launchers

This looks like a poor copy of the list that I took to the NOVA open in 2010. It has since become kind of popular in our group. This list...is not good. It looks great and semi-invincible on paper, but the reality is it will fold to a dedicated assault. For example, the Land Raider Wolf list above with Ragnar is going to eat this alive. I will likely struggle until my terminators arrive to take fire. It will all come down to positioning of units in this game.

So these are the next 5 games that I will be playing, I will post updates as they come. (and perhaps battle reports)

-Mike